quoteFerrrari2015 Kimi remains (with the Bomb Tomb)
Formula1 July 21, 2014 Here are some things I know about Ferrari.
1) In Maranello have not the slightest intention of questioning the contract linking the Red Raikkonen also throughout 2015. So either the Holy Drinker crazy or the question does not arise.
2) I imagine that some will doubt it, yet always in Maranello are convinced that the blond has both a victim and not a culprit.
3) Alonso has not yet responded to the proposal for extension of the contract.
4) Ross Brawn would accept only a role as an external consultant. A little 'as the Pri Ugo La malfa when leaning outside a government unpopular.
5) With my vague surprise, here it is confirmed that the design of the car for 2015 will be signed by Plato designers, creative dall'Aristotele, in short, yes him: Tombazis.
6) Ferrari believe that the Tomb Bomb in the car of 2015 will have the time mysteriously mancatogli for the product in 2014.
7) It would be interesting to know about the opinion of Marmorini, but the former head of the mechanics can not express, for the usual contractual obligations.
8) In recent weeks the racing department was attended by many faces never seen before.
9) Instead, an old face, Niki Lauda, phoned yesterday to Montezemolo. Theme: I'm sorry if you're offended by that phrase ('machine m.'), I just wanted to say that you go too slow. The lawyer has invited the Austrian breakfast. You will see next week.
Lets see if I can fix it a little, but still won't be perfect because I don't understand Turrini
Quote: YiNing wrote in post #196Google Translation seems not too bad?
quoteFerrrari2015 Kimi remains (with the Bomb Tomb)
Formula1 July 21, 2014 Here are some things I know about Ferrari.
1) In Maranello have not the slightest intention of questioning the contract linking Raikkonen in red also throughout 2015. So either the Holy Drinker becomes crazy or the question does not arise.
2) I imagine that some will doubt it, yet always in Maranello are convinced that the blond has been a victim and not a culprit.
3) Alonso has not yet responded to the proposal for extension of the contract.
4) Ross Brawn would accept only a role as an external consultant. A little 'as the Pri Ugo La malfa when leaning outside a government unpopular.
5) With my vague surprise, here it is confirmed that the design of the car for 2015 will be signed by Plato designer, creative Aristoteles, in short, yes him: Tombazis.
6) Ferrari believes that the Tomb Bomb, for the 2015 car, will have the time mysteriously missed for the product in 2014.
7) It would be interesting to know the opinion of Marmorini, but the former head of the mechanics can not express, for the usual contractual obligations.
8) In recent weeks the racing department was attended by many faces never seen before.
9) Instead, an old face, Niki Lauda, phoned yesterday to Montezemolo. Theme: I'm sorry if you're offended by that phrase ('sh. car'), I just wanted to say that you go too slow. The lawyer has invited the Austrian for breakfast. They will meet next week.
quoteTranslated by our foreign correspondent, Claudio Acquista
Leo Turrini
Formula 1 July 26, 2014
All in all, I would say “here we go”. The Ferrari has held Alonso so that he could gamble against Vettel, and more or less (just to speak) we are there. The Ferrari has re-hired Raikkonen to gamble against Hamilton and tomorrow the little blond will even start ahead of The Black… come on, now!
Now, I do not know what Marco Mattiacci thinks about the Red pit wall. I mean about Fry, Spagnolo, and Stella. Let’s say they are a handpiece of new Leonardo da Vinci. And then how can they do a bitch bullshit like that against the Holy Drinker on Saturday at the Hungaroring? What is the sense of trying to save a set of tires (against the advice of the pilot, eh?), risking a catastrophe?
As a tale (*Alo) once asked with such a loud voice: are you genius or stupid? Then, for the benefit of Spanish readers so help me God, I would say yes, of course, in the first run Kimi was slower than Alonso. But this has really nothing to do with what happened next. Let’s put all together the beautiful masterpiece on Saturday at Silverstone and pull the plug and kick the bucket. What does Mattiacci think of his Red wall?
PS. About the race, the misadventures of Ham offer a great opportunity to Rosberg, although Vettel has the right to try to gamble. Usually the Hungarian Grand Prixs are a terrible bore, due to ‘trains’ (*leo means the cars all in a long unique row without any overtakes like a train)… but this year, we are often watching surprising afternoons. You can use this post to tell yourself about the Grand Prix.
I became a friend of Luca Marmorini when he was still working at Toyota.
In the summer of 2006 we won the prize together 'Fair Play': we were with Edwin Moses and Stefka Kostadinova (if you do not know who they are, the worse for you).
The engineer Marmorini, head of the Ferrari engine, has left the company in Maranello at the end of July. The thing he had known how I had anticipated earlier and here the news, in early summer.
Marmorini so far has never expressed his opinion on what happened in the heart of the Red Army.
He does now for the first time.
For this pleasant place called Clog.
I am grateful.
'To begin with let me say that I do not speak for myself. I've closed with Ferrari and you know how, then have nothing to do anymore. I did not even push the love of needless controversy, but unfortunately there are people in Maranello who likes to blame responsibility to those who should be silent, in short write I open my mouth in response, also, to a series of provocations ... '
'In short. E 'was made to pass the idea that all the woes of the 14 F T are the fault of the power unit. As if in a company with the history of Ferrari had forgotten how to make your engines! I mean, I accept any accusation, but do not tell that to Maranello there is people who do not know the business, the turbo, hybrids, etc. ... '
'My name is not out of nothing. But, let's set the record straight. With my colleagues I packed a power unit with a certain size, ie, smaller version of the Mercedes and Renault also the version, because that we have been asked by the project manager of the car, Mr. Tombazis ... '
'We said we want a PU very compact, with small radiators, because the less power will compensate with aerodynamic solutions that will guarantee us an advantage on the race cars driven by Mercedes and Renault cars driven by. There 's been exactly like that, except that, when we are confronted with the competition, the horses were less obviously, but the compensation from aerodynamics there was absolutely!'
'E' went well and I would like to explain to Marco Mattiacci, when it was put in place to Domenicali. But with Mattiacci in three months I exchanged a few words, we saw each other twice, the first for the greetings, the second when he subjected me a letter that confirmed my farewell to the company '.
'' Look, I do not want to accuse anyone. For real. Point out, however, that Ferrari took a road racing department plans to entrust to inexperienced people, which unskilled people make use of advisers who so far have shown nothing but which have a blind faith '.
'Who are the councilors mentioned above? Pat Fry and James Allison '.
'The Ferrari also runs the risk of damaging the bedrock on which in the past has built many successes. I do not speak for me, I now have out. But I'm sorry for the engineers I know who are still there, good people who are demoralizing '.
'In my comparisons was used much superficiality in expressing negative opinions. But I remain calm, my fate was decided at the table but when I think of that table who was not even sorry, if not for the Ferrari as such. Binotto my successor? I love him, I wish only not to put the interests of career ahead of everything '.
'My future? It is not true that I have already signed for Renault. Indeed, in the present to me a Formula One car in which an engine in practice can not work on his creature, due to regulations that impose a freeze, like very little. But I'm sincere, Grand Prix races have their own charm, maybe in a month I change my mind and I go back to the pits ... '
Wow. That is really, really interesting.. He's basically telling Ferrari
I find it very interesting the connection between Turrini's article and the article about Mormorini in relation to Tombazis. His job seems very, very safe and he seems to have a significant amount of power within the company. I understand that at some point an executive decision needs to be made. But it sounds like Marmorini was at the mercy of Tombazis design. I've stood up for Tombazis for quite a while.. But I'm not sure he is the man to lead Ferrari forward. His aerodynamic designs weren't good enough to win championships in the pre-2014 cars and his design this year also isn't good enough. Will James Allison play a bigger part in the design?
I am quite surprised to hear how disgruntled Marmorini is. I am sure that he is extremely competitive and a brilliant engineer. But usually you don't hear the degree of unhappiness he expressed upon being fired. Kimi only speaks well of the new "team boss." Marmorini has not a nice word to say about him. And he makes it sound like the engineers aren't thrilled to be working for him either. This is certainly understandable given Marmorini has probably worked his way up to the "top" over many years and a "new hire" comes in and immediately fires him. That is very political. And probably not the best way to run a Formula 1 team trying to compete at the top.
I don't really know what to think about Marmorini's rant.. but I agree with this very much
quoteMarmorini’s lack of class in attacking Ferrari
There are times in life that a person shows so much class that any witness remains in awe. Irrespective of anyone’s view of the man, Felipe Massa showed what a classy individual he was when he accepted his huge disappointment of losing the 2008 title to Lewis Hamilton. Stood crying on top of the podium that day, he expressed his emotion to the crowd and afterwards congratulated the new champion.
Ferrari replaced him for Kimi Raikkonen this year, but even at the time of the announcement were gracious enough to allow him to inform the world. Just a few months later, Stefano Domenicali resigned/ was made scapegoat (eliminate as per your beliefs) but has demonstrated pure class in his lack of attacking the team he led for so long. Even when asked about other jobs in F1 he returned the statement that he could never do that because his heart would be with Ferrari.
In recent weeks, rumours in Italy had been intensifying that Luca Marmorini would be ousted under the new Marco Mattiacci regime which was confirmed a few weeks back.
Unlike some of his predecessors – including the engaging Aldo Costa who spoke with no malice just a resigned air in regards his dismissal from a Ferrari that was being badly managed by Luca di Montezemolo – Marmorini had no compunction in telling his ‘friend’ Turrini what really happened in Maranello.
“I do not speak out for myself but there are people at Maranello who like to apportion blame when it would be best they remained quiet – basically I am defending myself.“
“These people are stating that all the problems of the F14 T are due to the power unit. Get serious, a company with the history of Ferrari does not forget how to make engines! I’ll accept any accusations but not that Maranello doesn’t know how to design engines, turbos, etc..”
“Let’s set the record straight. With my colleagues we built a power unit to fit a certain size blue print. It is smaller than the Mercedes and Renault designs because we were asked by the car’s project manager Mr Tombazis.”
“They asked for a small PU, with small radiators. The main purpose was although it would have less power they guaranteed an advantage with its aerodynamic solutions over the competition. It transpired exactly like that, except when we ran against the competition there was no aerodynamic advantage either.”
“I don’t want to accuse anybody, but it has to be pointed out that Ferrari has entrusted its plans to an inexperienced, unskilled person who has blind faith in others who have achieved nothing – Pat Fry and James Allison.“
“Marco Mattiacci was put in place of Domenicali but in three months I exchanged just a few words. Our initial greeting when we met for the first time and when he gave me my letter of dismissal.“
“Ferrari is also demoralising several key engineers who have been the foundations of the many successes the team has had. I remain calm, I have now left but I’m sorry for the engineers who are still there.”
A bitter man – no doubt. An insightful individual – only time will tell. The politics of Ferrari are only beginning to be played out, but this disingenuous individual has possibly given away within his words why Mattiacci felt he was not the right man for the task.
To blame Fry and Tombazis is probably reasonable as they have been at the helm and directing the design of the red cars for a few years but to bring in to the equation the name of Allison who has been a title winner with Ferrari between 2000-2004 and with Renault in 2005/6 is remarkable – especially considering that Allison only rejoined Ferrari on the 1st September and would have no input in this season’s design..
A popular saying in Italy is “Don’t spit on the plate that you ate from” (don’t bite the hand that feeds you) – in effect with non-disclosure agreements you tend to be less attractive to other employers. Far better to have the class of a Costa and prove your value elsewhere..
to say Allison has achieved nothing and blame him while he hasn't got anything to do with this years car is a bit too much. So I don't know how much he is speaking the truth in this "interview" or just trying to put blame on others. Cause whether the engine is small now or not, it's still not good. It's heavier than others (while smaller! ) it needs more fuel, the drivability is shit... sure, it's not only the PU to blame for that bad car but it is to blame mostly I think
And here is the problem of translation. In Turrini's article.. It clearly states "road car" which made me think the 'disgruntled' engineer only had a problem with Mattiacci. That's an interesting twist of words.
It's hard to know what the truth is. Aside from the fact he is unhappy with losing his job and the restrictions he was working under.
And here is the problem of translation. In Turrini's article.. It clearly states "road car" which made me think the 'disgruntled' engineer only had a problem with Mattiacci. That's an interesting twist of words.
It's hard to know what the truth is. Aside from the fact he is unhappy with losing his job and the restrictions he was working under.
no, that is from google translation. the article doesn't say anything about road car. The right translation is: ".. that Ferrari has taken a road which plans to entrust the racing department to inexperienced people, those inexperienced people make use of advisors who so far have shown nothing but they have unconditional trust. Who are these advisors mentioned above? Fry and Allison"
with inexperience people he means of course Mattiacci, which he isn't wrong obviously. don't know if he means anyone else as he is speaking in plural. he might be even right about Fry in a way but Allison?? of course he is unhappy, and if true that Mattiacci hasn't even really talked with him once than this is really strange but still I don't think this is the right way to deal with it..
quote Ferrari must take risks to win again in F1, says team boss[/color] By Jonathan Noble Wednesday, August 20th 2014, 08:34 GMT
Ferrari team boss Marco Mattiacci says the Maranello outfit must be braver and embrace risk in its new era if it is to win titles in Formula 1 again.
In an exclusive interview featured in this week's AUTOSPORT magazine, where Mattiacci reveals his plans to get Ferrari back to the front of F1, the Italian declares it essential that the team shakes off a culture of conservatism that has been prompted by a fear of failure.
"We have to embrace risk," says Mattiacci. "To embrace the utmost co-operation. Dialogue. To be brave. That is the most important thing for me."
Mattiacci has begun to make changes to Ferrari's infrastructures - with a shake-up of its engine department already completed - and he says that his vision is of a very different type of team in the future.
"These are very important changes," he explains. "We are clear where we want to go. So I don't know if you can call the changes big, but they will be important.
"I think that Ferrari is going to look different. And the story will tell if it will be better.
"But the change will be across the board - most importantly cultural change and discontinuity. These are the most important things."
BLAME CULTURE MUST END
Mattiacci also points out that one thing that has annoyed him since taking over as Ferrari team principal is the blame culture that has existed within the Maranello squad's organisation of separate departments.
"I don't like it when the engine people talk to me about the chassis for the first five minutes. I don't like that the chassis people talk to me about the engine. We talk about the car," he said.
"Everybody has to share the responsibility with that car. There is no 'we did better than you', or 'we did this because you asked'."
"Everybody is responsible for that car in the same way."
But how will the blame culture end if they keep sacking everybody for their mistakes?
If you're new at something, you have to rely in people who know what they are doing and I'm not speaking about Kimi specifically. (Well, Mattiacci has already acknowledged Alonso and Kimi as two highly experienced drivers and champions, so not much of the problems come from this department. Specially from Kimi's side, since we all know he's not the blaming-others-kind-of-guy).
It's clear that Ferrari's biggest problem is that they're not a united team and they don't take risks. They should all take responsibility as a team when they loose, as well as they take the glory together as a team when they win. But how can this be if there's no room for failure? How can someone learn from their mistakes if they keep kicking everybody out? And how can someone take risks if only winning is acceptable? And how can Ferrari take risks if there's no room for making changes during the season if they have screwed up?
But it's not like Marmorini was new and did one mistake and was kicked out immediately. You can't say that they kick everybody out as he surely was not the only guy who did mistakes but was the only who had to leave for now. Maybe it was also his attituede like in the interview, blaming others and not seeing his responsibility which was the reason he had to go? We don't know but it would fit with Mattiacci's words. So far I like what Mattiacci is doing. There will be a longer interview in Autosport tomorrow which will be interesting to read and we will see next year if he has the right plan.
I didn't meant just now but since 2010. Ferrari has kicked out several key workers and now they have this "blaming culture" because nobody wants to be the next to leave, since they know anybody can get sacked. But you're right, I don't know how many mistakes they all did before getting kicked out.
I'm not taking sides anyway, since it's a really confusing situation. Marmorini says there was no communication while Manttiacci says he believes in dialogue, etc.
But this problem of not being united as a team in good and in bad times, will be a huge task for Manttiacci. Let's hope he can do it.
Plus the F1 rules not allowing to improve the enginge during the season and so many other endless restrictions, I don't see Ferrari taking to much risks in the near future. Since they are still not in a situation were they can say "we have nothing to lose". I mean, even in this terrible season, they are still third in Constructors, and that's a lot of money.
yeah ok, that's true and they probably kicked some wrong people out but still I don't think it's that bad that they all fear and can't work because of it. At a "normal" job you will also have to leave at one point if you do too many mistakes. But at Ferrari the pressure is always bigger than on other teams. They took risks with the car this year.. it just all went wrong. yes it's confusing. it's hard to believe Mattiacci wouldn't even talk once with the key people. How is that possible?
yeah those restrictions aren't good for the sport as there is no chance to improve a whole season. I hope they can get it right for next season, they can change 48%, and the level between the different PUs will be more even. I don't think they need such a situation. This is Ferrari, the title is always the aim, being 3rd is nothing to be proud of and money is no point, I guess because of their special standing they get most money anyway.. if they can't get a win this season - which is quite likely - then this is worst season sonce 1993. and we all know how long ago they got the last title.. With all the money, resources and people Ferrari has they have to get it right
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) it needs more fuel, the drivability is shit... sure, it's not only the PU to blame for that bad car but it is to blame mostly I think
