Well...I could say a few things just to vent some pressure but instead I say, this was engouraging start for Ferrari as it really seemed this car is fast. Mercs are in another planet right now but still..Ferrari is knocking the door . Funny, when I asked my hubby who didnt watch the race, guess the race..he said: ok, Bottas didnt race, Hammy won, Rosberg second, Vettel third, Massa fourth, some bastard hit Kimi or the team messed up and he retired.
Kimi: Something broke down Team: Okay, Kimi. Stop the car, stop the car. Find a safe place to stop, the team said. Kimi: Did you leave the wheel loose?”(Raikkonen said in frustration) Team: Unfortunately, the wheel was not tight. I'm sorry, Kimi.
I dont feel too terrible about the race, of course it sucked for Kimi, but Kimi was clearly damn fast! It is also lucky that Kimi didn't receive any penalties. I hope Ferrari really goes and work on their pitstops and strategies. I can only look forward to the next race, Malasia is a much more traditional circuit and a much better benchmark for true speed, I hope Ferrari can be just as fast or perhaps faster in the next race, and I hope Kimi is just as fast in Malaysia!
Quote: Appletree wrote in post #46Well...I could say a few things just to vent some pressure but instead I say, this was engouraging start for Ferrari as it really seemed this car is fast. Mercs are in another planet right now but still..Ferrari is knocking the door . Funny, when I asked my hubby who didnt watch the race, guess the race..he said: ok, Bottas didnt race, Hammy won, Rosberg second, Vettel third, Massa fourth, some bastard hit Kimi or the team messed up and he retired.
While I am encouraged by the speed of Ferrari (especially it's race pace), I am slightly jaded by Vettel's move during the race. If you watch the onboard from Vettel's car, you can clearly see that Kimi had more than a car length in front of Vettel. Vettel should have known right then and there not to brake too deep, or else he would have to take the aggressive line which would force Kimi off the circuit. And this is exactly what happened. Did Vettel have the right to his line? Of course, he was on the inside. But to me, this action says a lot about "me vs. team." And obviously Vettel's action would weigh heavily in the "me" category. Ferrari could very easily have finished P3-P4 with one-stop races. But as a result, the team suffers because of that action. Regardless of who would have finished P3 and P4 from the Ferrari duo, it wasn't allowed to happen because of Vettel. And that is what is highly discouraging to me.
As for the weekend, Vettel was slightly better in quail. And I'm not sure that he was remarkably better than Kimi in the race. We would need to see them both run 1-stoppers to know. I still have a feeling that Kimi will have superior race pace over the course of the season. But let's wait and see how that plays out..
Quote: Sonny wrote in post #51While I am encouraged by the speed of Ferrari (especially it's race pace), I am slightly jaded by Vettel's move during the race. If you watch the onboard from Vettel's car, you can clearly see that Kimi had more than a car length in front of Vettel. Vettel should have known right then and there not to brake too deep, or else he would have to take the aggressive line which would force Kimi off the circuit. And this is exactly what happened. Did Vettel have the right to his line? Of course, he was on the inside. But to me, this action says a lot about "me vs. team." And obviously Vettel's action would weigh heavily in the "me" category. Ferrari could very easily have finished P3-P4 with one-stop races. But as a result, the team suffers because of that action. Regardless of who would have finished P3 and P4 from the Ferrari duo, it wasn't allowed to happen because of Vettel. And that is what is highly discouraging to me.
As for the weekend, Vettel was slightly better in quail. And I'm not sure that he was remarkably better than Kimi in the race. We would need to see them both run 1-stoppers to know. I still have a feeling that Kimi will have superior race pace over the course of the season. But let's wait and see how that plays out..
Interesting assessment from you on the Vettel vs. Kimi starting incident. I know you are a fan of Vettel as well, that is why I found your assessment more interesting. It is fun to see Kimi and Vettel having a nice bromance, but from the first I ve wondered how long it will last. But perhaps I am to skeptical when it comes to F1. I haven't really looked at the start properly yet, I will write it off as a racing incident, but I hope if this type of situation comes around again, that Kimi would be less gentlemanly.
Quote: Boudica wrote in post #53 Interesting assessment from you on the Vettel vs. Kimi starting incident. I know you are a fan of Vettel as well, that is why I found your assessment more interesting. It is fun to see Kimi and Vettel having a nice bromance, but from the first I ve wondered how long it will last. But perhaps I am to skeptical when it comes to F1. I haven't really looked at the start properly yet, I will write it off as a racing incident, but I hope if this type of situation comes around again, that Kimi would be less gentlemanly.
It will be interesting to see how the season unfolds in regards to their starts. Vettel has a very clear history of being "ambitious" when it comes to defending positions. Kimi is properly known as being very fair in his defense. Which is why it raised a big red flag for me. You're all ready starting to see history repeat itself.
I have no issue with someone who wants to call it a "racing incident." That's completely fair. The bigger question was were they talked to prior to the race about this specific scenario and could it have been avoided to maximize points for the team. It's not like Kimi and Seb will be fighting for WDC. So why are they not maximizing their WCC points?
Here's an analysis from Sky TV. I wish you could see the onboard from Vettel though. You can clearly see Kimi's rear tyres in front of Vettel's from Vettel's onboard. You can even see how early Kimi brakes in comparison to Vettel..
Here's an analysis from Sky TV. I wish you could see the onboard from Vettel though. You can clearly see Kimi's rear tyres in front of Vettel's from Vettel's onboard. You can even see how early Kimi brakes in comparison to Vettel..
In one word or another, Vettel forgrs Kimi out of the track not really fair
I agree with you Sonny, It didn't seemed like a good idea to fight between them at the first race. I also understand that in a competition everyone wants to be first. All I want is a fair fight between everybody.
I like Seb, always have, but he doesn't have Kimi's reputation of being a fair driver. But I also think it will take a lot more than that for their friendship to suffer, or so I hope.
When the cars hit Kimi at the start I couldn't belive his luck... at the first pit stop I was thinking Kimi will say: "everyone makes mistakes"... and then I was feeling better to see how he was starting to make things better... But then the second stop happened and I just lost it and turned off the TV. I just couldn't believe this was happening after all this years and when finally he's happy in Ferrari and his car seems competitive.
But after I counted to, I don't know, maybe a hundred? I Realized things looked pretty good for this season and felt happy to know there was no penalty for him.
This was a very eventful race, who ended up being very frustrating for half of the drivers. But thankfully there's another one coming pretty soon.
Sonny, i tend to agree with you. and you know i'm no vettel fan, no way. i saw the move as you described it. i try to trust Kimi's gut feeling towards Seb, and say, if Kimi likes him, he must be a decent guy. but in f1, and in the track, friendships dont exist. and seb is known as being too ambitious. i just hope Kimi tries to be a bit more aggressive too. we have seen in the recent past that other drivers may take advantage of the fact that he prefers to give in than crash.
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You could ask him more often 
I want to hug him and spend him an icecream 
are ready.. 
