Zitat von SonnyAny word on what the 2013 car will be called?
they always call the test car, different named as a racing car.
Zitat von SonnyWhat were his jobs prior to McLaren?
This is his career 2004 : end of studies project at Peugeot Sport on the 307 WRC aerodynamic development 2005-2007 : aerodynamicist > Renault 2007-2012 october : head of aerodynamics > McLaren
The Red will not be revolutionary, correct the mistakes of the F2012 and should try a new concept
Fernando Alonso has asked the most extreme Ferrari single-seater for 2013: the F2012 proved to be a very reliable car (zero shrinkage due to breakage), but not enough performance. Engineers directed by Pat Fry, so if you want the esaudiranno of Spanish will have to make a car more to the limits of regulation interpreting the rules which leave open ample room for development. What are the areas where action can be taken?
CORRECT ERRORS This is the question that you are making technical Formula 1 and it will be interesting to find out what the answers will come from the individual teams. The regulatory stability could lead to cars that resemble more and many will seek to correct the "errors" of the 2012 season, taking the Red Bull Racing RB8 as a reference point.
COMPETITIVE RED NOW? Even in Maranello not escape these thoughts, but I am well aware that if you want to win the championship you need a quantum leap, a shot of the kidneys that put Ferrari at the top of the group from the very first Grand Prix 2013. President Luca di Montezemolo hopes for some years a Red immediately competitive, but it is a bit 'engineers Cavallino not satisfied.
ALONSO: BE RECOVERED 6/8 TENTHS Without revolutions in the rules is unlikely that the 664 (project number) I can find a couple of seconds of the best competition, as has sadly happened at the beginning of the year at Jerez test: February 5, when the same Spanish track will officially open the 2013 season, it will be important to find out the new car can be "healthy", reserving the right to introduce the most important news in the last session of collective testing prior to shipment of the machines in Australia. Fernando Alonso says there are 6/8/10 to be recovered on Red Bull, a gap still important.
NOTHING REVOLUTIONS Ferrari, which is being developed at the Department of Racing, a car seems to be very traditional, direct daughter of F2012: do not expect Therefore, the revolutions over the front suspension layout with pull rod that will be copied by many other teams, there will be the rear fairing (the axle wrapped in the arms airfoil). Some people say that you will return to the radiator forward inclined to have a more tapered in the belly of the discharge and make better use of the Coanda effect to generate load in the rear, but there are those who believe that this layout is not too tempting because it would lead to substantially revise the weight distribution, which is defined by regulation.
HOW stall WINGS? And, then, what you are focusing on the men of the Horse? The rules limit the use of the wing moving only in the detection point (one or two per circuit) both in qualifying and in the race, reducing the impact of this solution. Not only that, but if you have the ambition to stay in front, the use of the DRS will be practically zero. The focus, therefore, is focusing on other aspects of aerodynamics: stall the wings when not in use the load. It is in this context that, probably, we will see some interesting solutions: the Double DRS has not been banned by the FIA as long as his command remains passive, meaning that its operation is not affected by the opening or closing of the wing Mobile .
IN THE HANDS OF SANCHEZ Thrown overboard the front of the Mercedes system (it always seemed a bluff, or rather a sort of "mirror of larks" used by Ross Brawn to have a good media effect), engineers are assessing how to "interpret" stall the rear wing. David Sanchez I should know something: French arrived in Maranello to Woking where he was responsible for the aerodynamics department, but now the Racing Division is under the command of Loic Bigois (another trans that came from Mercedes).
ALI MORE FLEXIBLE 'SUBSIDIARIES Sanchez is the interpreter of the front hose (with the tightening of testing: 10 mm instead of 20 mm bending as it was last year with a load of 100 kg will be a less important) than the rear of the speaker and . It is in the rear that there will be "something" interesting. In this context we are thrown headlong a bit 'all's experiments Lotus Mercedes and we have already seen in practice. Ferrari has never dedicated to Double DRS, but it has opened, however, a kind of study on the stall of the wing.
WHAT invent 'Newey? A topic that will a leader Adrian Newey, Red Bull Racing brilliant designer: those who can best solve this issue could build his lead in the 2013 season. But do not be fooled to see some solutions on the cars that will be presented. We had to wait patiently ...
The update on the DRS rule will surely help Ferrari. Their pace was much more competitive on Sunday when compared with Saturday. This led many people to speculate that Ferrari were 'lost' with the car when the DRS was activated for extended periods of time (mainly Saturday during qualifying). That will definitely be something to look at.
What Ferrari need to maintain is reliability and excellent starts. I personally feel Ferrari were #1 in both areas.
Their pace on Sunday was very impressive. I don't buy Alonso's comments that the Ferrari is 0.6 - 1s off the pace of the front runners. That's rubbish. Maybe on Saturday. But not on Sunday.
Zitat von Sonny Their pace on Sunday was very impressive. I don't buy Alonso's comments that the Ferrari is 0.6 - 1s off the pace of the front runners. That's rubbish. Maybe on Saturday. But not on Sunday.
ZitatLuca Colajanni leaves the communication Ferrari?
The Ferrari is preparing major changes? The president Luca di Montezemolo has hinted at the Christmas party with the journalists of Formula 1 that there will be some changes in the organization chart of the Prancing Horse, but then returned all the usual appointment on snow Wroom , despite the stress of Pino Students Gazzetta dello Sport that after dinner he asked a question to the President right on the position of spokesman. Waiting for news of Madonna di Campiglio, in fact, embodying the idea that Luca Colajanni can leave the direction of the sports communications to take another role in the Ferrari. To confirm it is the pen of QN most listened to Maranello, Leo Turrini , in his blog. In the process of transformation of the Ferrari, then the head of the press have decided to leave the post he has covered for twelve years : Sicilian, having contributed greatly to the launch of the Ferrari website, which is updated today in seven languages, had inherited the role of Claudio Berro in 2001. Luca has played a very difficult task, knowing that every reflection of Maranello would had great impact in the media and has held the role with "priestly" dedication to the brand, the result of a passion equal only to that of the Inter faith. Often insurmountable bulwark, meticulous, precise and always informed, has been the barrier to the Holy of Holies of the Racing Department. Growing up in the court of Jean Todt, French was obsessed that they could filter out the secrets of the Scuderia Red, Luke has also helped to keep the team meshed with an authority that made ​​credible the repeated "rebuke" with journalists. A party game that was also the "pepper" of a relationship sometimes edgy, but the fact of mutual respect. Which role will cover Colajanni is too early to tell, but we are the first drafts of who can inherit a role not known easy team in Cavallino: grow quotes Renato Bisignani , who grew up in the court of Flavio Briatore at Renault F1 and then moved to Maranello in 2010, although it is not yet ruled out the approach to the racing department of a member of the Agnelli family .
ZitatAccessories and wings takes shape the new Ferrari
Ready mechanical details of 664 Bigois and Sanchez study the new DRS
After the crash test of the first shell, work continues on the preparation of the mechanical parts of the project 664, code behind which lurks a Ferrari on the track that will drop from 5 February at Jerez for the first winter testing session. A job in material, shape, weight and size of attachments (eg radiators): in practice all that hidden under the forms of the body. But he works hard also in the aerodynamic side, a sector that has been strengthened not only by Loic Bigois (formerly Mercedes) also by David Sanchez (former McLaren), who join Ben Agathangelou (formerly Red Bull). Both Bigois and Sanchez have considerable experience in developing mobile rear wing (DRS), which he told me in the pre Christmas dinner Stefano Domenicali next year will have even greater importance as you will be unable to use more freely in practice and qualifying. The objective course and increase the speed of the tip that has also beneficial effects on the engine power (increases the airflow and consequently the overpressure supply).
The aerodynamic shape you are trying in the wind tunnel that Toyota has the industrial suburbs of Cologne, where Ferrari will be forced to work at least until September, that will not be completed until the restructuring of that of Maranello already late even for the car of 2014 (the first of the new era turbo). The project to create a completely new tunnel from flank to Renzo Piano and instead gone for a long time because of excessive costs, they speak of 70 million euro.
I have read that Ferrari have two engineers in charge of the next 2 cars. One engineer for 2013 car and another engineer who is in charge of the 2014 project. Sounds like a good idea. I read this has been the strategy of McLaren in the past.
ZitatRilancio in 5 mosse - the way back in 5 steps. It says:"Alonso wants a more extreme car, but the 2013 rules prevent that, but there are several areas in which work needs to be done, starting now 'till the beginning of February.
Then they are pointing out in which areas, a little bit above you can find a picture of a Red Bull rear, above that i've described those area's.
The ones they are mentioning here are, starting at the top, going clockwise: 1-Suspension with encased wishbone and axle/driveshaft (like on the picture above of the RB8) 2-cover for the step nose, but this is purely for aesthetic reasons 3-Changing the position and shape of the radiators, as you can see the radiators are completely vertical, the 2013 will be sloping very much forwards and follow the shape of the sides.(the small red arrow you see in the radiator drawing is an arm connecting the chassis and the gearbox, to make the car stiffer, a solution Alonso brought from Renault) 4-5- Changing of the sides and exhausts, the whole design was based around the Acer exhausts, which were quickly abandoned, because they did not give the desired results on track, this was one of the main reasons the F2012 performed not as expected.
Zitat von SonnyI have read that Ferrari have two engineers in charge of the next 2 cars. One engineer for 2013 car and another engineer who is in charge of the 2014 project. Sounds like a good idea.
Yes, this is true, and Renault made ​​in the same way as Alonso drove there.
Zitat von SonnyI also read that Ferrari will not be allowed to use their new wind tunnel (At Maranello) until August.
If the Ferrari Wind Tunnel is "Rebuilt" and built to match or exceed the most modern/cutting edge Wind Tunnels in the world, then Ferrari have the edge of having this Most Advanced Wind Tunnel to work with at their home base. This is what all teams seek and want. Yes, you can't duplicate conditions and physical setting to match another Wind Tunnel's capacities exactly but, maybe Ferrari can incorporate more technologies and advancements that the Cologne Wind Tunnel does not have. Everything advances and technology changes all the time. Ferrari did this same thing in the 90's and it had some pretty good results for the Ferrari Team! The team developing the 2014 car is certainly not a "B" Team! If anything, they appointed a very skilled Engineer in Simone Resta to work on the 2013 car which will be an advancement of the basic 2012' race car and not a totally new car. 2013' may be the "compromise year" if there is one. These Engineers are not being hire "off the street"! These Engineers have many years of experience in the Ferrari Design Team and will Design based on the Results coming out of the Wind Tunnel!
1-New design philosophy for the front wing(s), the work of David Sanchez (ex McLaren) a front and rear wing expert, the new wings will be clearly be inspired by McLaren, interesting to see if it will flex also, despite the new FIA tests.
2-An aesthetic cover is allowed to hide the step nose, but is not required, teams could decide to run it's cars with the step nose if they see an advantage.
3-As mentioned before the F2013 will have pull-rod at the front and the rear, but will be changed mechanically compared to last season, especially the front pull-rod will be completely redesigned, as said before, it gives aerodynamical advantages and allows a lower COG, but it also created some mechanical problems and it's very time consuming to make adjustements.
4-The sides will be much smaller and less bulky and the radiators will be slightly inclined, to solve the problem of internal drag found last year due to the vertical position of the radiators.
5-In the rear area we will almost certain see a solution, as seen on this year Red Bull, but also as far back as on the Williams FW16 1994, this solution is to encase the rear suspension with an aerodynamic foil, including the triangles of the suspension and the axle shaft, in this way, the whole rear suspension becomes an airflow profile. This profile will guide the airflow to the lower profile of the rear wing and the diffusor, thereby increasing the downforce of the car.
6-During the winter tests Ferrari will test their version of a passive DRS, enabling them to stall the rear wing in certain area's.
7-The F2013 will most likely have the sides(ducts)/exhaust concept as seen on the Sauber and Red Bull, this system has proven to be the most effective way of using the hot air from the exhausts and improving downforce, because of this change, they will also have to redesign the diffusor.
I wonder if Ferrari will follow through with changing their exhaust design to Sauber/Red Bull and now Lotus (coanda style exhaust). This would be a significant change!
I'm really intrigued to see what Ferrari come up. It's hard to say who had the 2nd best car last year. I think a strong argument can be made Ferrari was #2, followed by McLaren and Lotus. Ferrari arguably made the most progress from season start to season end (Red Bull also made HUGE progress). How much more potential can they unlock from their 2013 challenger? They should start the year much stronger than last year. I look for them to be extremely competitive in regard to both titles this year. Unless they loose their stellar reliability from 2012
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