Since when did Kimi become so Politically correct? He must be growing up quickly and ready to be a father
Olga: I personally think the new "boss" of Ferrari-Fiat wants to quickly rid the company of Luca di Montezemolo's influence. Maybe you could answer this better.. does it have something to do with being Italian in a HUGE Italian company? Is it a power trip? It just sounds to be like the new boss wants "his" Ferrari and isn't so keen on the "history" of Ferrari as much as the predecessors.. I guess time will tell.
Does anyone have any good insight into Tombazis job? I know Turrini says he will be fired.. But any rumors about replacements? Has he been removed from his position?
Quote: Sonny wrote in post #766Since when did Kimi become so Politically correct?
I don´t get it. He is always correct.
When we say "politically correct" in English, we mean "the answer a politician would give" or an answer you know the media/interviewee wants to hear.
Do you REALLY believe Kimi thinks Maurizio Arrivabene is the correct man for the job?
His background is in marketing and Sales.. And the only reason he is affiliated with Ferrari is because his former company (phillip morris) had strong ties with Marlboro, a former sponsor of Ferrari. He was responsible for sponsorship of Marlboro to Ferrari.
Does this Background have ANYTHING to do with motor racing?
So again I will ask you.. Do you REALLY think Kimi thinks Maurizio Arrivabene is the correct man for the job? Or do you think he's giving the politically correct answer?
I think Kimi believes that. Arrivabene isn't just a Salesman. and Marlboro isn't just any sponsor at Ferrari. Arrivabene is also board member of Juventus Turin who have Agnelli as president. He also was member of F1 Commission since a few years. So he knows the sport, the team, he was at races at the past, he knows how to deal with Bernie and so on. Especially last point might be big reason for him since important for Ferrari to play their power regulation wise. The only thing he misses is technical knowledge which wouldn't be bad of course but isn't absolutely necessary. I wasn't happy they got rid of Mattiacci and I don't think all those changes at the top are good for the team but at the same time I don't think Arrivabene is a bad decision. Also Kimi seems to get along well with him so there is also no worry. Let's see how it goes, most important is anyway that they build a fast car.
We can agree to disagree on this one. I think there is a BIG difference between "being at the paddock" and getting your hands dirty in the paddock. Of any kind (yes, even lower formulae). Look at the two best teams right now.. You have Christian Horner and Toto Wolf. Did either come from "sales" and happend to "be around the paddock" and worked their way up the corporate ladder for a crack at Motorsports team principle?
I know time will tell if the decision is correct or not. But I'm on the side that doesn't think this was the best hire. I think it was a politically motivated hire. I don't think it had anything to do with Motorsport experience. And in my opinion, that is the wrong way to go about trying to bring the most storied F1 team back to Glory.
It's about influence, and Arrivabene has it. Sure he wasn't the best hire possible but then Mattiacci wasn't either. And as you mention Toto Wolff.. you know how he came into F1? Toto has some racing experience, yes but he is mainly a business man and that's also his role at Mercedes, as he is Executive Drirector (Business)! And then there is Paddy Lowe, Technical Executive Director. So what Ferrari needs is a Paddy. If true, they tried to have that structure, with trying to get Brawn or Costa back but they failed. There is also Bob Bell, who resigned Mercedes some time ago already without any news where he would go. There were rumours he could join Ferrari but lately I haven't heard anything. His gardening leave should be over soon so let's see.
I have a feeling that Mattiacci was hired by Luca as a replacement of Stefano only,
while Maurizio is hired to combine both roles as Luca's and Mattiacci's replacement. Something closer to Wolf's position I think. Or as Ron now in McLaren. Thus, there is a possible structural change in Ferrari's management.
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Quote: Denorth wrote in post #772I have a feeling that Mattiacci was hired by Luca as a replacement of Stefano only,
while Maurizio is hired to combine both roles as Luca's and Mattiacci's replacement. Something closer to Wolf's position I think. Or as Ron now in McLaren. Thus, there is a possible structural change in Ferrari's management.
yeah, possible. Marchionne doesn't have enough time for Ferrari alone. Italian paper writes Ferrari still in negotiations with Newey. But it's not easy. yeah I can imagine, I don't think he will come.. But Tombazis is the next to leave.
Quote: miezicat wrote in post #771It's about influence, and Arrivabene has it. Sure he wasn't the best hire possible but then Mattiacci wasn't either. And as you mention Toto Wolff.. you know how he came into F1? Toto has some racing experience, yes but he is mainly a business man and that's also his role at Mercedes, as he is Executive Drirector (Business)! And then there is Paddy Lowe, Technical Executive Director. So what Ferrari needs is a Paddy. If true, they tried to have that structure, with trying to get Brawn or Costa back but they failed. There is also Bob Bell, who resigned Mercedes some time ago already without any news where he would go. There were rumours he could join Ferrari but lately I haven't heard anything. His gardening leave should be over soon so let's see.
It's true he came into F1 that way.. But "some" racing experience is not exactly true. He's won a 24hr LeMans race. He's competed in multiple formulae and had his own racing instruction school. Has this other dude driven anything other than a Ferrari around Mugello just because of his stature?
I think the problems stem far deeper than just the new hire. Just think back to Marmorini and his disgust and anger when he was fired. Many people thought Ferrari would have he upper hand with new regulations because the engine and chassis was built under the same roof. Did you get the feeling at the time of Marmorini's departure that that was a house united? Ferrari had a chance to get everything right. And they failed miserably. And I think the Marmorini issue is a big clue as to how disjointed that organization truly is right now. I don't think it's about influence. I think it's about getting the correct technical team in place that works in harmony. And having a strong leader (ie Todt) to keep everyone in check.
Quote: Sonny wrote in post #774[quote=miezicat|p77505] It's true he came into F1 that way.. But "some" racing experience is not exactly true. He's won a 24hr LeMans race. He's competed in multiple formulae and had his own racing instruction school. Has this other dude driven anything other than a Ferrari around Mugello just because of his stature?
I think the problems stem far deeper than just the new hire. Just think back to Marmorini and his disgust and anger when he was fired. Many people thought Ferrari would have he upper hand with new regulations because the engine and chassis was built under the same roof. Did you get the feeling at the time of Marmorini's departure that that was a house united? Ferrari had a chance to get everything right. And they failed miserably. And I think the Marmorini issue is a big clue as to how disjointed that organization truly is right now. I don't think it's about influence. I think it's about getting the correct technical team in place that works in harmony. And having a strong leader (ie Todt) to keep everyone in check.
He won a 24h race, but not Le Mans He raced Formula Ford and FIA GT. I don't want to put him down but he will tell himself that he is better off with business.
well what do you expect Marmorini to feel? be happy? we don't know if it was right to fire him but looking at his words as he still only blamed others it maybe was.. I agree, they had the potential but they got it all wrong. And now things have to change. Sure it's about the technical team. There is a big restructure, talk of 60 or more new engineers/mechanics. Arrivabene could be that strong leader, we can't know.
He is really looking forward to work together with Seb. I think it will stay the good friendship like it is at the moment Even when I know some people have doubts about it.
quoteRaikkonen: “Working together in the same direction”
Abu Dhabi, 6 December –Kimi Raikkonen was on hand for the last day of the Finali Mondiali in Abu Dhabi. The Scuderia Ferrari driver put on a show, along with test driver Marc Gene, at the wheel of a 2009 F60, the car the Finn drove at the end of his first period as a Ferrari driver. He thrilled the crowds in the stands, with flat out acceleration runs and of course, the obligatory “doughnuts.”
Expectations. Before getting behind the wheel, the Finn spoke on a variety of topics when he met up with the journalists present. Looking back at the 2014 season and forward to the next one, Kimi had this to say: “It’s not been an easy year for me or the team. Ferrari is always expected to win races and fight at the front. Unfortunately, that wasn’t the case, but for the next season we laid down the basis for Scuderia Ferrari to come back to the level it should be at. There’s a lot of work to do but we know which areas we need to improve on. This job has already started and in the factory, we have everything we need, in terms of personnel and the means to make the necessary progress. All we need to do is work as a team, in the unified way that typified this team in past years. I’m sure the 2015 car will be much more competitive, although we will have to wait for the first test session to see where we really stand.”
Changes. On the subject of changes within the team, with the arrival of Sebastian Vettel as his team-mate and Maurizio Arrivabene as Team Principal, Kimi said: “I think Maurizio is great and perfect for the role he has been given. I’ve known him from before and have seen how competent he is. I think he will bring to the team his experience and that will prove to be very beneficial. As I’ve already said, Sebastian is a friend and I’m happy to be working with him. I think we can work well together as a team, pushing each other to the limit on track for the good of the Scuderia, as we aim to get it back to where it should be.”